Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/26/2000 09:12 AM Senate FIN

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     SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 419(JUD)                                                                               
     "An  Act relating  to the  weekly rate  of compensation                                                                    
     and   minimum  and   maximum  compensation   rates  for                                                                    
     workers'  compensation;  specifying   components  of  a                                                                    
     workers'  compensation   reemployment  plan;  adjusting                                                                    
     workers'  compensation benefits  for permanent  partial                                                                    
     impairment, for reemployment  plans, for rehabilitation                                                                    
     benefits, for  widows, widowers,  and orphans,  and for                                                                    
     funerals; relating to permanent  total disability of an                                                                    
     employee  receiving  rehabilitation benefits;  relating                                                                    
     to calculation  of gross  weekly earnings  for workers'                                                                    
     compensation  benefits   for  seasonal   and  temporary                                                                    
     workers and  for workers with overtime  or premium pay;                                                                    
     setting time limits for requesting  a hearing on claims                                                                    
     for    workers'   compensation,    for   selecting    a                                                                    
     rehabilitation specialist,  and for payment  of medical                                                                    
     bills;  relating  to  termination   and  to  waiver  of                                                                    
     rehabilitation  benefits,  obtaining medical  releases,                                                                    
     and resolving  discovery disputes relating  to workers'                                                                    
     compensation;  setting   an  interest  rate   for  late                                                                    
     payments  of   workers'  compensation;   providing  for                                                                    
     updating   the   workers'  compensation   medical   fee                                                                    
     schedule; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked what  the impact of the legislation                                                                    
would be on private employers throughout the State.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  GROSSI, Director,  Division of  Workers' Compensation,                                                                    
Department  of Labor  and  Workforce Development,  commented                                                                    
that  the  legislation  would  increase  the  premium  rates                                                                    
between 7.7% and 8.9%.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked how much that would amount to.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi  replied  that  the   expense  would  amount  to                                                                    
approximately $15 million dollars per year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson  suggested that  action appears to  be an                                                                    
additional tax.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley  interjected that the rates  had dropped over                                                                    
43% over the past twelve years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi  corrected that  the  overall  premium rate  had                                                                    
decreased over 30% since 1988.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked if the premium tax would increase.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi advised  that the  premium tax  rate was  set at                                                                    
2.7%.   If  the  overall premium  increases,  there will  be                                                                    
additional funds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green argued  that the premium tax  increases as the                                                                    
premium rate increases.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson  asked the  reference  on  Page 9,  Sub-                                                                    
paragraph (Q).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  replied that section  was an amendment  added in                                                                    
the Senate  Judiciary Committee.   The  amendment stipulates                                                                    
that  the  check  must  be  drawn  on  a  state  or  federal                                                                    
financial institution,  which it  is hoped would  provide an                                                                    
assurance policy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson  asked if checks were  being issued which                                                                    
were not drawn on federal or state financial institutions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley  explained  that  in  the  Senate  Judiciary                                                                    
Committee, testimony  was received  that some  insurers were                                                                    
paying benefits  to workers with  checks drawn on  very slow                                                                    
paying  banks.   The Division  has been  trying to  regulate                                                                    
this  concern through  various policies.    The addition  of                                                                    
that  language makes  it clear  that they  must be  drawn on                                                                    
United States (U.S.) banks.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson referenced  Page  9,  Subsection 15  and                                                                    
asked if  that information  had been  analyzed out  past one                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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Mr. Grossi  replied that  it was established  during the  1                                                                     
year  effect  on the  premium.    He acknowledged  that  the                                                                    
average change  has been  2% or  less for  the past  four or                                                                    
five years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson inquired  the  current anticipated  rate                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi explained  that the rates would  change from $700                                                                    
to $772.   He pointed out that the change  would address one                                                                    
of the  audit concerns.   The  Legislative Budget  and Audit                                                                    
Committee  (LBA) recommended  that the  benefit be  indexed.                                                                    
He noted  that it  was indexed at  the Alaska  average equal                                                                    
wage, which is a more  accurate reflection of the change for                                                                    
the wages than the overall cost of products.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson referenced Page 4,  Line 17, and asked if                                                                    
that was tied into the previous section.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley agreed it did apply back to that section.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson questioned the 105%.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  explained that in  current law, the  maximum for                                                                    
worker's compensation benefits has  been established at $700                                                                    
dollars  and for  retraining benefits,  it was  set at  $750                                                                    
dollars.  The proposed language provides the same ratio.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson  clarified that  the language  would only                                                                    
apply to the re-training portion.   He asked if benefits had                                                                    
been included in Section 15.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  advised that the  calculation in Section  15 was                                                                    
divided by all the jobs, thus, providing the average.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson  asked  if  that  meant  there  were  no                                                                    
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  interjected that wages had  been calculated into                                                                    
that number.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green questioned why Section  5 provided a different                                                                    
formula than the rest of the bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi responded  that Section 5 was not  based on wages                                                                    
but  instead based  on the  cost  of education  and for  re-                                                                    
training purposes.  The audit did recommend that language.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired if  there was  a formula  in statute                                                                    
that would be more appropriate  than figures determined on a                                                                    
maximum.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell  referenced  Section   13  and  asked  its                                                                    
purpose.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi commented  that section  resulted  from a  court                                                                    
case.   The statute is  present in current law,  however, it                                                                    
was interpreted by  the Supreme Court.  The  purpose of that                                                                    
section resulted from a failure to prosecute.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed between Co-Chair  Parnell and Mr. Grossi                                                                    
regarding  the amount  of  time that  it  takes the  average                                                                    
claim to move through the system.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Phillips indicated  that he  had two  amendments to                                                                    
the  bill, which  resulted from  an audit  request a  couple                                                                    
months ago.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson  asked if  a flat rate  index had  been a                                                                    
part of the audit recommendations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAT   DAVIDSON,  Legislative   Auditor,  Legislative   Audit                                                                    
Division,  advised that  in the  audit, a  deterioration was                                                                    
seen of the  flat amount in statute.   The audit recommended                                                                    
that it be increased to  something reflecting a more current                                                                    
purchasing  power.   She  commented  that it  is  up to  the                                                                    
Legislature  to periodically  update  those  or establish  a                                                                    
mechanism that automatically allows for some indexing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley  MOVED to  adopt Amendment  #1, 1-LS1418\N.1,                                                                    
Ford,  4/20/00.    [Copy  on  File].    He  noted  that  the                                                                    
amendment  would address  how the  surviving widow  is paid.                                                                    
He  emphasized that  the increase  would  be significant  to                                                                    
those families  that have  lost a  worker on  the job.   The                                                                    
amendment would  change the current ten-year  rule to twelve                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green OBJECTED for the purpose of a question.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams noted his support  of the amendment.  He asked                                                                    
why "20 years" had been changed to "12 years".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley  replied that "10 years"  in existing statute                                                                    
was  totally an  arbitrary number.    He wanted  to make  an                                                                    
incremental increase.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  WITHDREW  her  OBJECTION  to  Amendment  #1.                                                                    
There being  NO further OBJECTIONS  to Amendment #1,  it was                                                                    
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley MOVED to adopt  Amendment #2, which would add                                                                    
a benefit  to families  that suffer the  death of  a worker.                                                                    
Currently,  the  only  benefit paid  is  $2500  dollars  for                                                                    
funeral expenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  suggested that there probably  would be other                                                                    
insurance coverage available to the family.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley  advised that Amendment  #2 would  not affect                                                                    
the funeral  coverage in any  way and that the  two concepts                                                                    
were not related.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson  clarified  that  with  passage  of  the                                                                    
amendment,  $5000 dollars  would  be given  for the  funeral                                                                    
expenses  and a  $5000 dollars  additional payment  would be                                                                    
given to the family of the deceased.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell  questioned  if   the  concept  was  being                                                                    
implemented  in  the  appropriate  manner.    Under  current                                                                    
statute,  the family  receives $2500  dollars for  the costs                                                                    
associated  with reasonable  funeral  expenses; that  amount                                                                    
would be  raised to $5000 dollars.   If there is  a widow or                                                                    
widower, they  will receive  80% of the  weekly wage  of the                                                                    
deceased  in   addition  to  the   funeral  benefits.     He                                                                    
recommended that the weekly wage  be further adjusted rather                                                                    
than disbursing a lump sum.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley stated  that  the  proposed amendment  would                                                                    
provide for  better public  policy.  If  the worker  had not                                                                    
died,  the family  would  continue to  receive  100% of  the                                                                    
worker's  salary.   Under  the  current  system, the  family                                                                    
would  receive a  reduced  percentage of  that  salary.   He                                                                    
emphasized that is  not a gift, it is part  of that worker's                                                                    
employment package.   At this  time, only the  funeral costs                                                                    
are   being  recovered.     He   emphasized   that  with   a                                                                    
catastrophic  loss,  there  are  a lot  of  immediate  costs                                                                    
incurred  by the  family and  that  a worker's  compensation                                                                    
check does not make allowance  for all those costs.  Senator                                                                    
Donley stressed that $5000 dollars was a reasonable amount.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  asked  the consequences  of  adding  on  the                                                                    
employer's costs and how it would impact the rate.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Green  assumed that the concern  should be addressed                                                                    
in  the   employee's  contracts  rather  than   through  the                                                                    
proposed amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson  responded   that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
include  more  than  just  the employees  of  the  State  of                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken asked  the approximate  number of  employees                                                                    
lost on the job each year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley replied that between  20-30 people die on the                                                                    
job each year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell voiced  a conflict of interest as  he is an                                                                    
employer in private  practice that would be  impacted by the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green OBJECTED to the adoption of Amendment #2.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Wilken, P. Kelly, Phillips, Donley, Leman,                                                                       
               Adams, Parnell, Torgerson                                                                                        
OPPOSED:       Green                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (8-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips MOVED to  adopt Amendment #3, 1-LS1418\N.2,                                                                    
Ford, 4/26/00.  [Copy on File].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson  explained that  the audit  recommended various                                                                    
issues to help the Worker's  Comp Division to streamline and                                                                    
become  more efficient.   One  item  noticed by  Legislative                                                                    
Audit,  which  was  causing  some  inefficiencies  was  that                                                                    
either  the insurers  and/or the  insure adjusters  were not                                                                    
filing  notices  in a  timely  manner.  Currently, there  is                                                                    
nothing  in place  to encourage  them  to file  in a  timely                                                                    
manner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The  Division's  intent  in   encouraging  them  to  enhance                                                                    
reporting was to  allow the agency to develop  a sanction or                                                                    
impose  a  fine  to  encourage  the  adjusters  to  get  the                                                                    
information into  the office in  a more timely manner.   Ms.                                                                    
Davidson  noted  that  the   amendment  would  address  that                                                                    
concern.  She asked if the  Board should define it or if the                                                                    
Division should attend to that.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green indicated a conflict of interest.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  believed that  the language  would work  fine as                                                                    
written  in the  amendment.    He agreed  that  it would  be                                                                    
simpler if the Department could issue the penalty.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green stated  that a 10-day grace period  was a very                                                                    
short period  of time for  an insurer to get  established if                                                                    
the person was not going to renew their policy.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson asked  how  long the  10-day policy  had                                                                    
been in law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi replied  that it  has  been in  place since  the                                                                    
inception of the law.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green countered  that it is not in  existing law and                                                                    
that the 10-day currently applies only to the employer.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  agreed.   The insurance  company would  have the                                                                    
best information on that situation.   There are arrangements                                                                    
that allow for the cancellation of a policy.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell  questioned what  the problem was  that the                                                                    
amendment intended to fix.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson replied  that during the course  of the audits,                                                                    
it was found that adjusters  and insurers were notifying the                                                                    
Division in an untimely manner  regarding whether or not the                                                                    
employer remained insured.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell asked current law.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson  noted that there is  no sanction if it  is not                                                                    
reported  timely and  that currently,  it is  the employer's                                                                    
responsibility to report.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell  pointed out  that at  this time,  they are                                                                    
not  required to  report under  that section.   He  asked if                                                                    
there was another section that required the reporting.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson stated  there is  under Section  AS 27.30.030,                                                                    
Subsection 5.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell repeated  that if  currently, there  is no                                                                    
requirement   for  insurers   to   give   notice  of   every                                                                    
cancellation  in  the  State,  then what  problem  is  being                                                                    
fixed.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson  responded that currently,  the people  who are                                                                    
doing  the annual  reporting are  the  adjusters and/or  the                                                                    
insurers on behalf  of the employer.   The responsibility is                                                                    
the employers, but it tends  to be the insurance agency that                                                                    
does it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  Co-Chair  Parnell,  Ms. Davidson  explained                                                                    
that AS  23.30.0305 stipulates that  the termination  of the                                                                    
cancellation  policy   is  not  effective  as   the  insured                                                                    
employees  care  covered  until   20  days  after  receiving                                                                    
written notice of the termination.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell asked if that would be the employers duty.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson replied  it was, however, it  is ultimately the                                                                    
insurer's responsibility.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell asked why the  insurance companies were not                                                                    
doing the  reporting.  He  voiced caution in  establishing a                                                                    
dual system and penalty.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson interjected  that under  AS 23.30.085(a),  the                                                                    
employer  is subject  unless exempted,  and shall  initially                                                                    
file evidence  of compliance  with the  insurance provisions                                                                    
of that  chapter in  a form  prescribed by  the Board.   She                                                                    
noted that the two recommendations were:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ·    Filing the notices in a timely manner; and                                                                            
     ·    Sanctions for uninsured workers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She continued  that the Division has  been recommending that                                                                    
AS 23.30.085 impose sanction.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell pointed  out  that  AS 23.30.085,  already                                                                    
contains a provision  that if an employer  fails, refuses or                                                                    
neglects to comply with that  section, they would be subject                                                                    
to consequences listed in AS 23.30.070.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson  pointed out that  reference does not  impose a                                                                    
penalty unless a compensable injury has occurred.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell  asked if there  was in law,  a requirement                                                                    
that  an employer  maintain  insurance coverage,  indicating                                                                    
nothing  that would  impose  a  penalty without  compensable                                                                    
injury.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson acknowledged that was true.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell asked how Amendment #3 would address that.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson replied  that motion  would  be referenced  in                                                                    
Amendment #4.  [Copy on File].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken  on the motion to adopt Amendment                                                                    
#3.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Phillips, Donley, Leman                                                                                          
OPPOSED:       P. Kelly, Green, Adams, Wilken, Parnell,                                                                         
               Torgerson                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips MOVED to  adopt Amendment #4, 1-LS1418\N.3,                                                                    
Ford,  4/26/00.   [Copy on  File].   He  indicated that  the                                                                    
amendment would  address Recommendation  #5 provided  in the                                                                    
audit.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson stated  that the  amendment would  move toward                                                                    
the  statutory construction  that  would  prevent the  Board                                                                    
from  issuing   sanction  against  the   uninsured  employer                                                                    
without a  compensable injury having  to occur.   She stated                                                                    
it was  intended to  eliminate that and  allow the  Board to                                                                    
place penalties  on an uninsured  employer prior to  a claim                                                                    
being filed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell OBJECTED  for the  purpose of  discussion.                                                                    
Current  statute indicates  in  AS 23.30.080(b)  that if  an                                                                    
employer fails to insure or  provide security, the Board may                                                                    
issue a "stop  order" prohibiting the use  of employee labor                                                                    
by the  employer until the  employer provides  the security.                                                                    
He noted that there are  penalties for avoiding a stop order                                                                    
in place.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson  commented that  she  was  not sure  that  the                                                                    
amendment was  addressing the  recommendation being  made by                                                                    
the  Legislative Budget  and Audit  Committee.   She  agreed                                                                    
that it  was focused more  on the compensation to  a worker,                                                                    
which would imply that there had been an injury.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson offered  to work  with  the Legislative  Legal                                                                    
office to address the concerns of the Audit Division.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley  recommended  that  when  working  with  the                                                                    
amendment to word it so that it not require a title change.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson agreed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  had an  at-ease from  10:30 A.M.  until 10:55                                                                    
A.M. in order to confer  with the Legislative Legal Division                                                                    
on Amendment #4.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  DOUGHERTY,  (Testified  via  Teleconference),  Alaska                                                                    
Labor Union,  Anchorage, stated that he  supported the bill.                                                                    
He noted that it would  have benefits for all State workers.                                                                    
He did not comment on the amendments.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Phillips  MOVED  an   amendment  to  Amendment  #4.                                                                    
Following "shall" on Line 8,  delete "Board" and insert "may                                                                    
access a civil penalty of up to $1000 dollars per day".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  OBJECTED.  She  asked if that  language would                                                                    
be more appropriate in AS 28.30.085.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson explained  that the intent of the  audit was to                                                                    
give the  Board more  options so as  to deal  with uninsured                                                                    
employers.  Currently,  there  exist some  penalties  if  an                                                                    
employer  avoids  a stop  order.    The drafter  recommended                                                                    
using  "may" rather  than "shall"  to  help bring  employers                                                                    
into compliance.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Torgerson   asked  if   that  would   satisfy  the                                                                    
requirement of the audit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson replied it would.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi  noted  that  at this  time,  the  agency  could                                                                    
investigate  and prosecute  only through  the Department  of                                                                    
Law.    The proposed  language  would  give the  Board  more                                                                    
authority to penalize against an uninsured employer.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell  asked if  it  was  necessary, given  that                                                                    
there already exists a civil penalty.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grossi explained  that  a stop  order  occurs once  the                                                                    
person has gone to the Board.   If they still fail to comply                                                                    
with that order, then the  $1000 dollar penalty would apply.                                                                    
The penalty could be assessed  for failure prior to the stop                                                                    
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Parnell  asked   how  the   provision  would   be                                                                    
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  responded that the potential  uninsured employer                                                                    
would  still have  to be  investigated,  which is  currently                                                                    
happening.  When the Board  finds someone that does not have                                                                    
insurance, they comply at that point.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Parnell asked  what the  Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development does in that situation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi  commented that the Department  then goes through                                                                    
various records  that help to identify  employers that might                                                                    
be  out of  compliance.   The investigator  then writes  the                                                                    
necessary  letters.    The  amendment  would  allow  for  an                                                                    
employer  not  in  compliance,   so  that  the  Board  could                                                                    
implement a penalty.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken  on the  motion  to adopt  the                                                                    
amendment to the Amendment #4.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Donley, Wilken, Phillips, Torgerson                                                                              
OPPOSED:       Green, Leman, P. Kelly, Parnell                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams was not present for the vote.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  asked  if  the  legislation  would  address                                                                    
controverted claims.   He asked  that the  Department report                                                                    
back to the  Legislature next year regarding  the concern of                                                                    
controverted claims.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Phillips WITHDREW  Amendment  #4.   There being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was withdrawn.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In response  to Senator Green, Co-Chair  Torgerson asked the                                                                    
Department  of Labor  and  Workforce  Development if  fringe                                                                    
benefits were included in the compensation rate.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grossi answered that they are based strictly on wages.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley  MOVED to report SCS  CS HB 419 (FIN)  out of                                                                    
Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                                                                    
accompanying  fiscal notes.   There  being NO  OBJECTION, it                                                                    
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SCS  CS HB  419 (FIN)  was  reported out  of Committee  with                                                                    
"individual recommendations"  and with  fiscal notes  by the                                                                    
University  of  Alaska  dated  4/24/00  and  the  Office  of                                                                    
Management and Budget dated 4/24/00.                                                                                            

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